When the Story Comes in Pieces: Trauma-Informed Interviewing with Bryan Barlow
What happens when someone remembers the sound of an impact—but not the details immediately before it? When they recall pieces of an experience out of order? Or when their emotional response doesn't look the way we expect it to?
Those gaps and inconsistencies can be easy to interpret as deception. But trauma can fundamentally influence how people experience, process, store, and retrieve information.
In this episode of Truth Be Told, Dave Thompson, CFI sits down with Bryan Barlow, CFI, Staff Instructor and Professional Standards Lead at Wicklander-Zulawski & Associates, to explore the science and practice of trauma-informed interviewing.
Drawing from Bryan's experience as a Chicago Police detective, trainer, and interviewing practitioner, they discuss how trauma can affect memory and behavior—and why investigators need to be careful about imposing their own expectations on how someone "should" remember or respond to an event.
The conversation explores why memory isn't always chronological, why delayed reporting or gradual disclosure shouldn't automatically be interpreted as deception, and how safety, patience, rapport, empowerment, and even silence can improve an interview.
Dave and Bryan also examine the broader application of trauma-informed practices across law enforcement, human resources, workplace investigations, healthcare, security, fraud investigations, and everyday human interactions.
And the responsibility doesn't end with the interviewee. They also discuss the cumulative impact that repeated exposure to difficult stories and investigations can have on investigators themselves—and why self-care must be part of the conversation.
Trauma-informed interviewing isn't about excusing inconsistencies or abandoning investigative curiosity. It's about understanding what else might explain what we're seeing before we decide what it means.
Because sometimes the most important question isn't, "Why doesn't this story make sense?"
It's "What might I be missing?"
About Wicklander-Zulawski & Associates (WZ)
Wicklander-Zulawski & Associates (WZ) is a global leader in investigative interviewing training, helping law enforcement, human resources, loss prevention, and corporate investigators conduct more effective, ethical, and reliable interviews. WZ provides training in evidence-based investigative interviewing, trauma-informed interviewing, workplace investigations, rapport development, and other evidence-based approaches designed to improve communication and decision-making.
Bryan Barlow, CFI, INCI, joined the Chicago Police Department (CPD) in 2002 and was promoted to Detective in 2008, where he conducted a wide variety of investigations around the city. In 2015, Bryan became a training coordinator and instructor for the CPD's Bureau of Detectives, where he researched, wrote curriculum, and delivered training to new officers, newly promoted detectives, and in-service department members on investigatory topics such as Investigative and Trauma-Informed Interviewing, Investigative Methodologies and Law. After retiring from the CPD in 2023, Bryan began conducting seminars as an instructor with Wicklander-Zulawski & Associates (WZ), and in January 2025, he was promoted to Staff Instructor & Professional Standards Lead with a focus on Evidence-Based Interviewing Techniques, Homicide Investigations, Trauma-Informed Interviewing, and Law. Bryan holds a Master of Business Administration degree from Loyola University Chicago, a Master of Jurisprudence degree with a concentration in Criminal Law from DePaul University and is a veteran of the U.S. Army.
Bryan presented "When 'Just the Facts' Doesn't Work – Trauma-Informed Interviewing" at Elite Training Days 2021. Trying to gather information from traumatized individuals can be difficult. Interviewing victims of street crime, workplace violence, someone who has been involved in a major accident or suffered a severe personal loss can often be frustrating, especially when the regular information-gathering: asking the who, what, when, where, and why, doesn… Read More
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